Sarah McConnell & Ami Arad

Close More Deals with 6sense Revenue AI


Ami Arad, Senior Principal Product Evangelist at 6sense, shows us how 6sense Revenue AI™ can help sales and marketing teams drive predictable growth by understanding anonymous buyer behavior.



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>> Hello everyone and welcome to Go to Market AI,

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the future of your Go to Market tech stack.

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I'm your host Sarah McConnell.

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These days, it seems like every company has AI,

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but on this show, we want to take you a level deeper so you can

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see firsthand how businesses are actually applying AI to solve your business

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challenges.

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We're going to go deep into use cases and showing you live demos of

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the latest and greatest in AI technology.

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So today, I'm so excited to be joined by

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Ami Arad, Senior Principal Product Evangelist at Sixth Sense.

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Ami, welcome.

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>> Thank you, Sarah. So happy to be here.

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>> Okay. So, Ami, first question is,

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can you tell us a little bit about who is Sixth Sense?

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What do you guys do specifically with AI and then who are you helping in the

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market right now?

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>> Sure. So Sixth Sense really started by trying to answer the question,

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wouldn't it be easier for sales and marketing if we just knew who was in market

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to buy our products?

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That's kind of the foundational question that the company was started on almost

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10 years ago.

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Since then, we've been able to answer a bunch of other questions that sales and

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marketers have.

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But as you kind of see here in a bit in the demo,

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trying to figure out what that 5, 10 or 20 percent of accounts that are in

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market today for what you sell

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is kind of what Sixth Sense is about. So we have this revenue AI for marketing

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and revenue AI for sales solutions that we sell primarily to companies selling

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to other businesses

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in lots of different industries with a strong foothold in high tech.

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And you can kind of think of Sixth Sense is really starting in that space that

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today we would call ABM

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or account-based marketing, kind of advertising to other businesses is a

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primary use case.

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But over the last decade have really evolved to solve problems for other person

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as and really kind of be the central nervous system for a lot of companies for

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their entire go-to-market motion.

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>> That is fantastic. I know we over here at Qualified are very happy Sixth

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Sense users.

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I love your product. I found it incredibly impactful for our go-to-market

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motion,

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which is why I was so excited to have you on the show today.

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So with that being said, the main reason we wanted to have this go-to-market AI

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series was so our

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viewers can get a behind-the-scenes look and make AI feel really tangible for

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them,

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because it does feel like everyone is saying they have AI right now.

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But as a user and as a marketer myself, it's hard to understand how that can

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work into our tech

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stack. So with that being said, Ami, I would love it if you could jump into a

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demo and actually

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show us a behind-the-scenes look of Sixth Sense and your AI functionality.

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>> And sorry, I think you hit on an important nuance there, which is with AI.

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I mean, AI is obviously, it's been around for probably three decades, maybe

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more.

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It's obviously become extremely popular the last few years as compute power has

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allowed

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AI to kind of be better at what it does. And so you have every company under

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the sun kind of

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bolting on AI to whatever product they've built. And so I think one of the

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things that

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makes Sixth Sense different, and I think you'll see it here in this demo, is

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that,

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really, we've had AI as part of our solution from day one. It was very much

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built on sort of a big

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data architecture with the goal of using AI to make sense of that data. So what

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we're looking at

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here is the main dashboard within Sixth Sense. And just to give you a sense of

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how much data

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we're talking about, this shows all the different activity that we're ingesting

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from a variety of

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different sources. So from a first party sort of data source standpoint, we

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collect website activity.

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So our customers put a little JavaScript tag on their website, every page view,

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video view,

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all that stuff, form fill, get sent back to Sixth Sense. In addition to that,

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though, we're also

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going to integrate with a customer's marketing automation platform. So think El

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lequa, Marketo,

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Par.HubSpot, etc. and capture all of the marketing activity. So events, webin

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ars, whether they were

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registered or attended, email campaigns, all of that we're ingesting into Sixth

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Sense. In addition,

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we're also grabbing first party data from our customer's CRM system. So think

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Salesforce,

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Microsoft Dynamics, HubSpot. Here we're capturing every phone call that a sales

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person logs,

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every email that they send out, every meeting that a prospect attends. And so

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website activity,

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your map and your CRM activity, those are the first party data sources that we

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collect.

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In addition, though, we've spent the better part of 10 years trying to help

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companies do what we

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call light up their dark funnel. So the dark funnel is a phrase we love so much

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we trademarked it.

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It essentially represents kind of the research activity that prospects are

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doing, usually anonymously

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on websites you don't own. So a company's interested in a chat solution, let's

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say,

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and before they go to a qualified's website, they might be doing research on

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industry publications,

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blogs, they might be going to technology review sites like a G2, TrustRadius,

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Gartner. And we essentially have relationships with millions of different

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publishers where we

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get all of that activity data and then use our own matching technology, which

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is best in the

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industry to associate all of that activity back to accounts. So not to

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individual people, but to

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the accounts that are doing that research. So you can imagine for any single

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customer, we've got

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tens of millions of data points about everything that's happening, kind of

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leading up to when an

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opportunity is open all the way through till that opportunity is closed one or

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closed lost.

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And so where the AI really starts to come, and by the way, there's a bunch of

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AI involved in

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how we track what the pages are about in the dark funnel. So we've got natural

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language

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processing algorithms there. One of the ways that you track your dark funnel

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activity is by

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entering keywords. We use AI, for example, to recommend keywords in addition to

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the keywords that

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you as a customer might decide you want to put in. But I think kind of the

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secret sauce

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the secret sauce that uses AI that we're most known for is what we would call

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our predictive

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model or our buying stage model. So with all of this data that we ingest, we

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actually have five or

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six different ML models that run on that data to produce different types of

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scores. So we have an

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ICP model, for example, an account profile fit model, we have a contact profile

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fit model. So

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which personas are most involved right before an opportunity gets open. I'm not

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going to get into

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all of those today. This the one that you're looking at right here is the one

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that we're

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probably most well known for. And by buying stage model, what it's basically

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doing is it's looking

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at all of your historic historical opportunities. And what were those accounts

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doing right before

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the opportunity was open. And it's then scoring every account in your CRM today

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based on where in

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that buying journey, we think they are relative to these other opportunities

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that were open. So it

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is a predictive model. And you can see here, this is kind of what a pretty

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healthy funnel would look

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like. Sixth sense did not invent the concepts of awareness consideration

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decision purchase

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marketers have been using those terms for probably close to 100 years now. But

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it is sort of central

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to what our customers revenue operating models look like, which at its core is

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marketing should

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focus on awareness and consideration accounts and moving them through the

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buying journey. Sales

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should focus on decision and purchase stage accounts and closing business with

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them. And so it's a

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very easy way for both marketing and sales organizations to work from the same

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set of data

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to have a very clear sort of division of labor as to who's responsible for what

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and when.

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And as you can imagine, one of the things that I think is powerful about this

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is

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in addition to allowing marketers to run different plays and tactics at

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accounts with at least an

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educated guess as to where they are in the buying journey. It also gives

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sellers a wealth of

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information about exactly what those accounts are doing. So what I'm showing

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you here is just one

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dashboard within the marketing application. But this, for example, is what a

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seller would look at

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on a daily basis. And essentially, those scores are determining which accounts

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are hot, warm, cold,

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seller should be focusing on hot and warm accounts. Obviously, I could spend an

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hour just kind of

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going through every bell and whistle within this application, which we call

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sales intelligence.

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But the idea is that sellers have been doing account-based selling for decades.

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I've been in

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software 25 years now. I've never been at a company that wasn't selling to

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accounts. What

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ABM really did was let marketing kind of catch up and work with sales on

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targeting a specific

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set of accounts. And so really making sure that all that data that we're giving

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marketers access to

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curating that for sellers in a way that it's easy for them to take action on it

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is what we do

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within our sales intelligence application. The last thing that I'd like to show

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, because I think

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we wanted to cap this demo at around 10 minutes and I'm probably there, is

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there is one other

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really cool spot, uh-oh, where we use AI. And it's in a product we offer called

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conversational email.

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The, um, I'm probably going to get in trouble for describing it this way. But

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the easiest way to

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describe it quickly is imagine cloning your best inside sales rep, your best B

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DR.

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Meaning that not only can it send out emails, which by the way, marketing

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automation platforms

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can do, sales engagement platforms can do, the difference with conversational

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email is that it

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can actually reply when the prospect response. That's the difference. So a

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prospect says, I'm

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interested. The conversational AI knows what to do with that information and

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loop in the right

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salesperson. The prospect says, I'd like more information. The conversational

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AI will go get

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them more information. Um, if the prospect says, you know, call me back in

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three months, it will

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make a note to contact them again in three months. If they don't answer, which

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by the way happens

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to 99% of, you know, even warm outreach these days, it will continue to try for

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as long as you

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tell it to, um, before it will, you know, just stop bothering that particular

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prospect. Um, and so

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it was actually using generative AI, but even before chat GPT sort of, um, took

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the world by storm

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roughly two years ago. Um, and I can't show it. What I did here was I just

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quickly generated, um,

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uh, an email based on a prompt that's over here. It uses, um, GPT four, uh, to

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generate all these

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emails. There's new functionality now that allows you to upload your own

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content. So as a marketer,

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think white papers, case studies, things like that to make the AI even smarter,

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um, about the emails

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that it writes. Um, and I don't know if I should, well, I can probably say

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based on when this is

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going to come out. Um, at our user conference in mid October, I'll be showing

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some features that

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are currently in beta, uh, that really make this start to feel human. Um, and

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so this is kind of the

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part of our product today that currently leverages generative AI the most. Um,

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and I will say as

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someone that loves to demo product, um, it is probably one of the most fun

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products I've gotten

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to demo in my entire career, uh, just because of how powerful GPT four is, chat

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GPT, um, and, and

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the results that you get, um, uh, it's a little scary how good these days. So,

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um, those are some

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of the areas where we use AI within six cents, kind of within 10 minutes. Um,

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give me three hours and

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we could probably go through it all. Um, this was fantastic. And one of the

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reasons,

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Ami, that I'm so excited you joined us is I was at breakthrough about this time

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last year when you

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guys really started to roll out conversational email. And I remember sitting in

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the audience,

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you were on stage. I think your head of product. I remember a lot knee was on

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stage showcasing this

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product. And I was blown away at how just how good it was and how powerful it

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was. And I think the

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fact that six cents was on the forefront of this is as well before we were

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talking about chat GPT and

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how to prompt and it just felt so new. And that's why I'm really excited you're

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on the shows because

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I do feel like six cents has just been such a pioneer in the AI space. And you

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guys have been

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doing this for a long time. I've been using your buying stages for a long time

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with how I do my

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marketing. I know you kind of made the point during your demo of it gives

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marketers a good

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starting point of who where people are at and they're buying journeys. And that

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predictive AI is

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just so beneficial for helping marketers align and run personalized messaging.

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So again, this is a

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great demo. And I know as a user of this, your guys's AI functionality has been

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fantastic for

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both our sales and marketing teams. When I know you're coming to break through

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again this year,

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so I can't wait for you to see what we're going to do with conversational email

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this year.

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I was on a call this morning with our product manager for it as well as the

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founder of Sales

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Whale, the company we acquired that first pioneered this technology. And I told

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them, you know,

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because last year there there there were AI elements to it. But there were also

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parts that

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were not a, you know, that are templated, probably mostly by design, just

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because it sort of allowed

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allows customers to feel very safe in sort of in terms of how things are going

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to be responded to.

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And so just the progress in a year, what we'll be showing this year a

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breakthrough, I told Gabriel

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the founder of Sales Whale, I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to be needed on

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stage next year.

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Like you'll probably just have this AI simulation of me that can write a better

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friend of your script, you know, can, by the way, can probably translate the

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presentation into

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multiple languages, but still with my voice. So this might be my last year demo

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ing something

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on stage of breakthrough. I hope not, but that's that's where it seems to be

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going.

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Yeah, I feel like we're ready here first. In two years at breakthrough,

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Ami's just going to be a hologram and it'll just be AI. You won't even need to

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be there.

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We don't even know. Okay, Ami, so the next and last part of this go-to-market

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AI show is our

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lightning round Q&A. The first question you actually already kind of answered,

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but I want to circle

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back to it because we've touched on it a little bit, but I do think it's very

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unique for $0.6,

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which is how long has $0.6 been building AI into your product?

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Yeah, so a sense inception and it really was and still is kind of our big

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differentiation.

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Again, going back to that buying stage model, that was basically kind of like

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using AI for sort of like lead qualification, account qualification, that type

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of use case.

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And marketers like yourself that have been doing it for a while are all used to

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the lead scoring

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models, increase three points for this, decrease five points for that. That's

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the way that still

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a lot of our competition does it. Frankly, it was the way you had to do it.

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And so we were kind of this lone voice in the wilderness using AI for that

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purpose.

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And it was definitely lonely for a while. The last few years, we've experienced

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tremendous

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growth as I think the market has caught up. AI has matured. Our own models have

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matured.

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The amount of data we can collect has matured. Companies have matured in terms

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of

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now they've done the lead scoring model before many times and know what its

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benefits and its

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flaws are frankly. So we've really been using AI from the beginning. Again,

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even in this conversational

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email portion at the end, even though that product is probably three or four

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years, maybe

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it's four years old at most, it's been using generative AI for probably two

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years. And that

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demo last year of Breakthrough was probably a good six months, maybe eight

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months before

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chat GPT kind of, you know, just blew everyone away. So, you know, we use chat

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GPT, GPT four,

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we're testing, I think GPT four dot five, whatever the next version is. So we

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're still, you know,

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trying to stay on the bleeding edge with all of that. But AI has been a core

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part of six

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cents, like literally since the beginning. That's amazing. And I think I know

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the answer to this

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next question, but I want to ask it anyways, which I think as companies are,

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you made the point,

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just starting to catch up and build and the product where six cents has always

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kind of had

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this, but is all of this generally available for customers? People listening,

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can they go start

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using all these things that you showed on this demo tomorrow if they purchase

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six cents?

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Sarah, today, they don't even have to wait till tomorrow.

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Everything I showed today, everything I showed today has been part of the

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product. In fact,

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you know, for months or years, the buying stage models are probably, I don't

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know,

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probably more than five years old at this point. I hinted at a couple of really

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cool

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beta features within conversational email. Those will be showing the general

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public for the first

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time in mid-October. Probably released either later this year, first thing next

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year. But yes,

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all of the kind of core AI features in our product are not only generally

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available,

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but I would say battle tested at this point.

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Amazing. And then you've kind of hinted at this, and I don't know how much you

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can share,

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knowing with Breakthrough coming up here soon. But what's next on your AI

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roadmap? What do you

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guys at six cents thinking about in the future for AI in your product?

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Yeah, so a bunch of ways to answer this. So yes, I definitely hinted at some of

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it within

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conversational email. Our roadmap is a closely guarded secret.

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And I'm not saying that to be secretive. I am literally working with our SVP of

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product again

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on the product roadmap keynote for Breakthrough in less than a month. And I

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still have just

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barely any information about it. So what I can say safely is we will continue

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to figure out areas

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where we can incorporate AI throughout the products. One other area, for

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example, that we've played

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around with a lot is something that we call AI-driven orchestrations, meaning

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that instead of you as a

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marketer having to figure out which accounts you want to put in a different

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segment to run

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display advertising campaigns, let AI pick the accounts that it thinks are most

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likely to

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respond to display advertising. And that doesn't necessarily mean a click. I

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mean,

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clickthrough rates are dismal, B2C, B2B. That's always been the case. It's a

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big reason we're

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heavy on measuring view through rate. We do all see ads, even though we don't

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all click on ads.

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So if we think that an account might have a propensity to visit your website,

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for example,

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after having seen a few impressions of display ads, let's put them in a segment

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rather than

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forcing you as the marketer to figure out which accounts you want to do. And

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you can do both.

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Hey, these are 100 accounts we want to target for this reason, with this

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message, for this

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campaign. Of course, you'll always be able to do that. But if you also wanted

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to say, hey, let me

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put five grand in a campaign over here. And let me let AI pick the accounts.

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That's an area of

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the product where we haven't used a lot of AI historically, but we plan to. But

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it is literally

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kind of infused throughout the product. And I would expect that to continue.

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And I will plug knowing that breakthrough is coming up. I am sure you guys will

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be rolling

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out some things that are exciting on your roadmap that we can't quite talk

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about on the show today.

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So if you're not going to break through, I am assuming that six cents will make

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that publicly

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available after breakthrough happens in mid October. And I'm so excited.

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Don't read the roadmap. Or what you guys plug, I guess I'm sorry to interrupt.

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Yeah, go to breakthrough. If you want to see the roadmap, I think it's one of

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the few main

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stage presentations we don't share publicly. Okay, so everyone's got to fly to

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Frisco.

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Yeah. Exactly. And that's Frisco, Texas, not short for San Francisco.

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Yes. Someone did ask me that. We're going to Texas. It's not like you're in the

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Bay Area.

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Yes. Yes. Okay, Ami, last question. What other AI-powered products is your go

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to market team

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using in your tech stack that you've enjoyed using? Yeah. So, I mean, obviously

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, like six

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cents is kind of the core of our go to market. So we, there's a lot of AI in it

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. We use it all.

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We're testing the boundaries with it. There are a couple other kind of tools in

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the toolbox that

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we use on the front end. We use mutiny for personalization. There's some AI

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built into that.

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We use Alice as a gifting platform. It uses AI to figure out, you know, how to

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personalize gifts

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for folks. So frequently using that as door openers, you know, to book meetings

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, generate

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pipeline, things like that. We use a tool called writer or our content team is

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using an AI tool

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called writer to help write a lot of copy. I'm not on that team, so I'm not

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privy to everything

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that they're doing, but we've gotten some presentations internally about what

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we're doing with it. And it's

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very cool. We use Clary for revenue forecasting. We use Gong for call recording

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. I know sellers are

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super excited about their newest AI feature, which is kind of like the call

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summary that it types

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up now for you. So Gong would be another one. Those are probably kind of the

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main technologies

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within our tech stack that use AI. I mean, obviously, there's lots of other

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tools. Those are kind of

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the ones that come top of mind. Yep. Those are all great brands. And I think we

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've we've heard

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nothing but good things. I think about the AI functionality and all of those

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tools that you mentioned.

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So that wraps us on this episode of Go to Market AI. Ami, thank you so much for

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joining us today and

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showing us that behind the scenes look. I know it made it feel more real for me

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. Even as a user,

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it's always great to hear from the company themselves, how we should be

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thinking about the product and

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showing us this look. So thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for

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having us.

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